Episode 29: The Four Pivots with Shawn Ginwright

We are so honored to share this conversation with Dr. Shawn Ginwright (he/him), in celebration of his new book, The Four Pivots : Reimagining Justice, Reimagining Ourselves. Shawn is an author, professor, and an activist who brings a unique lens to the conversation about social change, dismantling oppression, and cultivating new ways of being. Shawn’s book, which we discuss in detail in this episode, is one of possibility, inviting us into the practice of being accountable to ourselves while we work together to co-create a new way of being.

Tune in to hear us talk about...

• Shawn’s journey of working with youth and the lessons he’s learned along the way through creating a summer camp, an organization, and a body of research challenging conventional methods and thoughts around self-empowerment for kids

• Shawn’s three P’s—Prevention, Pathology, and Problem, and what brought him into re-imagining rather than focusing mostly on pathologizing and problem-solving

• the experience of losing dear friends who were “soldiers for justice,” and how Shawn wants to facilitate “gardeners for justice”

• the importance of recognizing the missing ingredient in our social justice activism—accountability to ourselves, and the need for us to reflect on and understand the consequences of oppression and suffering in our own lives

• Shawn’s Four Pivots: from lens to mirror, from transactional to transformative relationships (think: the power of vulnerability), from problem to possibility, and from hustle to flow

…and more!

Connect with Dr. Shawn Ginwright:

• Shawn’s website

• Shawn’s new book, The Four Pivots : Reimagining Justice, Reimagining Ourselves

People and organizations mentioned in this episode:

• adrienne maree brown

• Patrisse Cullors’ new book, Abolitionists Handbook 12 Steps to Changing Yourself & the World

• our previous episode with Kelley Nicole Palmer

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